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Paul Thoresen's avatar

It is fair to say I am completely alienated.

Lots of calls to accept the socialists. Fuck them.

Greg's avatar

Excellent analysis…I am not a Democrat. I lived in Portland and gave up on the party after the 2020/2021 and the debacle that was Joe Biden. That said I am worried for the party.

They are driving moderates to places like Florida, Texas, and a number of other red states.

This will create three big problems. First it worsen an already bad map, creating perhaps a dozen more red leaning seats for hose republicans. Second, after the shit show that is Donald Trump they may end up facing a more moderate and competent Republican Party.

Third, if the Dems manage to win in 2028 they will also kind of own the train wreck that coming.

I think the Dems really need to moderate just to stay in the race. It doesn’t need to be extreme because they party has moved so far least since Obama in 2008. Just adopt an stance comparable to Obama 2012 and try to focus on rejuvenating the state Dem parties in red states.

The problem is that Dems or dem leaning people who moved to red states will not trust the party if the national brand does not change. The party needs to moderate enough to make those voters (I.e., the ones who moved to get away but are still fundamentally at least slightly left) feel like the won’t get screwed again.

If the current party can’t move enough to the right in the face of Trump, I have doubts about their ability to do this now.

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